Gundampilotspaz Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Not too Cruel. A monster, not a brute. Beth is so damn sexy! Gwynn made a suffering face. "Elm, she's a woman. I'm just the male of the species. I couldn't convince her that the sun rises in the east if she preferred it to rise in the west," he said, getting laughter from some of the others. This gave me some Heinlein flashes, but is a good look at their relationship at this point. It doesn't matter what Gwynn wants, and that is even more so put out by the way that Beth uses Gwynn for her art. It really seems to just build toward a one sided relationship. Also the factor that Gwynn fears Beth could not just break it off with him at any moment, but just take off and leave without even telling him. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Beth is so damn sexy! Indeed she is. And so is Gwynn xD This gave me some Heinlein flashes, but is a good look at their relationship at this point. It doesn't matter what Gwynn wants, and that is even more so put out by the way that Beth uses Gwynn for her art. It really seems to just build toward a one sided relationship. Also the factor that Gwynn fears Beth could not just break it off with him at any moment, but just take off and leave without even telling him. While your assessments of their relationship are fairly accurate, I think (especially Gwynn's increasing fear that Beth will just take off one day,) I really think the way he said that then was nothing more than an attempt to throw Elm off wanting to meet her with a sexist joke. Remember he felt kinda icky about the way he'd demeaned her in the conversation? Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 While your assessments of their relationship are fairly accurate, I think (especially Gwynn's increasing fear that Beth will just take off one day,) I really think the way he said that then was nothing more than an attempt to throw Elm off wanting to meet her with a sexist joke. Remember he felt kinda icky about the way he'd demeaned her in the conversation? Well yeah, but I think he is growing to believe it as all these things about beth, her wanting to travel; her controling him, is really starting to get to him. It was part to throw Elm off, but there was a lot of truth to it as well. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Well the thing about Beth is, if she wanted the sun to rise in the west, it just might. o_o Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 I trust that isn't some kind of spoiler. Just a statement of personality. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Well if you're asking does Beth literally end up making the sun rise in the west, then no, she doesn't xD I'm just saying concidering the events of the story, she actually might be able to Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 Well if you're asking does Beth literally end up making the sun rise in the west, then no, she doesn't xD I'm just saying concidering the events of the story, she actually might be able to Does she manipulate reality though her etchings? (don't answer) Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Does she manipulate reality though her etchings? (don't answer) ...okay Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 What amuses me is that I'm only now realizing just how much of a comedy the story is. It's as much comedy as anything else. I mean really, it's like every page is laced with subtle, dead-pan humor, often of the black variety. Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 What amuses me is that I'm only now realizing just how much of a comedy the story is. It's as much comedy as anything else. I mean really, it's like every page is laced with subtle, dead-pan humor, often of the black variety. Isn't that what I said about the first scene with Gwynn and the Rev. And you were just "No, he is just devoted." Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Isn't that what I said about the first scene with Gwynn and the Rev. And you were just "No, he is just devoted." .......no, you said you thought she was being a bit too preachy about her views, and I said that no, I thought she felt more pity for the Rev than anything else. o.O Quote Link to comment
Pamuya Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 yes beth is fucking awesome BUT IT NEEDED MORE DEFORMED BABIES. REALLY MAN, COME ON. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 There are often dead/dying/deformed babies/fetuses in my dreams. Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 There are often dead/dying/deformed babies/fetuses in my dreams. Goodluck with that. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Have you got to the demented 69 scene with the heiroglyphs in the vagina? Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 End of chapter 12 - It seems to me, that the forces of life and death are playing out as a central theme in this book. And I'm sure I should have noticed it before XD. Also some sense as a negitive view of love. Since the only characters who have been in love so far have been Marriott who can't pursue it, and Gwynn who seems to be going down a dead end. Also a question of humanity is coming into play, with the scene with the lobotomy and the beings afterwards being less then human. And of course the deformed babies and alagator babies. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 heh heh heh, "a dead end" hahahaha heh... :ph34r: Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted March 31, 2006 Author Share Posted March 31, 2006 Oh no! There is going to be a "war" :ohmy: Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Oh no! There is going to be a "war" ...what Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 ...what Memorial Bridge... Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 oh That was an awesome scene xD Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 oh That was an awesome scene xD shh, they are just getting ready. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 goddamn you read slow as shit Quote Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 goddamn you read slow as shit No I don't I just don't have TIME to read. Quote Link to comment
No Sad Endings Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Aaaah, the ending of that book always leaves me violently happy... *grins like an idiot* Quote Link to comment
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