The governments war on drugs…

[Poophy]

I know that there is already a drug thread but I thought this needed its own…

http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm

It basically shows that the government is spending 50k per person that they arrest, half of which are for position of marijuana

[Gundampilotspaz]

HATE

MAKE IT LEGAL NOW! MONEY GOOD! GOVERNMENT BAD!

[darkon]

A friend of mine got arrested for marijuana today... so... yeah... legalize it.

Pot: It's green, which means money.

[Gundampilotspaz]

Farther Libertarian Retorhic!!!11

[uniform_motion]

Farther Libertarian Retorhic!!!11

I'm interested, have you read "Atlas Shrugged"? I bet you would love it.

[Gundampilotspaz]

I haven't, and Stranger in a Strange Land is better anyway.

^ OMG FANBOY

(I'll look it up)

Edited December 8, 2005 by Grand Magus Salvarus

[Belial]

Legalize, Regulate.

It will happen with our generation, at least for green it will.

[uniform_motion]

(I'll look it up)

If you vote Libertarian you really should check it out, trust me.

[Kreutz]

When will the US government learn bullets are cheaper than rehab? It is a war, after all.

Edited December 8, 2005 by Kreutz

[James_xeno]

I wish they were doing a better job with it but either way, it's money well spent in my view.

At least if for no other reason then to get to watch the "anti-drug prohibition" scum, throw a fit. :laugh:

[Gundampilotspaz]

Perhaps James_Xeno needs to look in the history books. Because around 1930 or so it says in BIG BOLD letters: "PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK"

We all know you want to control people but do it without wasting billions of tax dollers.

[Ceraziefish]

I wish they were doing a better job with it but either way, it's money well spent in my view.

At least if for no other reason then to get to watch the "anti-drug prohibition" scum, throw a fit.

It's so funny when people try to defend what they believe in.

Nonstop laughs! Especially when the government crushes them! Ha! Ha!

In case none of you can detect sarcasm [/sARCASM]

[Poophy]

Well, they have spent another $500,000,000 sense this thread started…

I can personal think of lots of better things that could have been done with that money…

[James_xeno]

All that money, and a lot of it wasted in small things like cannabis possession. I think that's a good enough case to make it legal.

No, that's more of a reason to get rid of the people currently running it.

I'm 50/50 on marijuana, though I think they should just stop focusing on it as much. (There's way worse stuff out there after all.)

So Burbster, would I be correct in the belief that you feel we should legalize everytype of criminal activity that might, in the personal views of some, cost too much to enforce or causes the perpetrators too much discomfort (prison) and or risk? Am I right in that assumption? If so then... wow..!

Why not just legalize everything then?! I mean look at murder. Being convicted of that would be a really big discomfort. (death or life in prison) Not to mention the inherent dangers in committing it and being caught by the "evil" police. I'm sure that idea would go over really well with the general populous...

And before anyone starts crying out that it's about the personal choice of an adult, don't! Because if the effects of tobacco and alcohol on people other then the ones originally using them has shown us anything. It's that there can be no doubt to the fallaciousness of the said view/claim. And I'm not even going to go in to the horrors and sufferings of life long addiction. Even if the said thing is/was good for you. (I.E. A proscription medicine.)

I get the feeling that a lot of these people have never had to deal with addiction in someone close to them... :glare:

[Gundampilotspaz]

Comparing Drug use to murder? Well, looks like the far right again makes a wonderful argument based on morality.

[margot]

And before anyone starts crying out that it's about the personal choice of an adult, don't! Because if the effects of tobacco and alcohol on people other then the ones originally using them has shown us anything. It's that there can be no doubt to the fallaciousness of the said view/claim. And I'm not even going to go in to the horrors and sufferings of life long addiction. Even if the said thing is/was good for you. (I.E. A proscription medicine.)

I get the feeling that a lot of these people have never had to deal with addiction in someone close to them...

Let's take away personal freedoms to protect people from something that may happen. Let's outlaw cigarettes, alcohol, violent video games, music, movies, and porn too. We all know those have bad effects on people.

Edited December 11, 2005 by Lindsay

[James_xeno]

Comparing Drug use to murder? Well, looks like the far right again makes a wonderful argument based on morality.

Yeah of course it would appear to be coming from the right. In the eyes of a person so far to the left that they've basically done a 180. Unlike the regressivist sheep of the left or the traditionalist zealots of the right. I form my own opinions and views on issues based on what I see and think. You know, as opposed to fanatically worshiping some god or the impractical fantasies/dreams of some long dead philosopher who may or may not have been "all there" to begin with. And don't even get me started on psychotic, power hungry revolutionaries.

[Gundampilotspaz]

Yeah of course it would appear to be coming from the right. In the eyes of a person so far to the left that they've basically done a 180. Unlike the regressivist sheep of the left or the traditionalist zealots of the right. I form my own opinions and views on issues based on what I see and think. You know, as opposed to fanatically worshiping some god or the impractical fantasies/dreams of some long dead philosopher who may or may not have been "all there" to begin with. And don't even get me started on psychotic, power hungry revolutionaries.

I'm a Libertarian. I'm half liberal, half conservative.

Its just I believe in something called "civil rights" and "Personal responsibility". Thats right, we don't live in a magical fantasy world where the government acts as a guiding spirit to keep us from harming ourselfs.

[Poophy]

Between the $50,000,000,000 and the tax revenue the government could get by legalizing it, im amazed that politicians aren’t all for it

[Reinas]

I honestly don't care whether illegal drugs are legalized or not. But what I'm seeing that's being argued is that the government will generate revenue if drugs are legalized.

But, have you ever thought of what long term effects legalized drugs will have on the government and the people? More will be addicted, more will need rehabilitation, more cities will need money to build rehab centers. And who's going to pay for these rehab centers? Entrepeneurs? I think not.

Sure the government will generate revenue if these drugs are legalized, but in the long run, they'll end up using revenue ie, tax money to build rehab centers for addicts. Where's the benefit in this if all illegal drugs are legalized?

[Battle_Pope]

that's why you legalize pot and mushrooms. Those two are progressing quite nicely.

[Venom112]

But, have you ever thought of what long term effects legalized drugs will have on the government and the people? More will be addicted, more will need rehabilitation, more cities will need money to build rehab centers. And who's going to pay for these rehab centers? Entrepeneurs? I think not.

If one just legalized the most popular illegal drug, marijuana, there wouldn't be too much of a problem, with the addiction aspect anyway. What with marijuana being far less addictive than the likes of cigarettes. Also, hemp is the most malleable substance on Earth, so that would do away with numerous costly other business ventures, saving even more money.

[Samurai Drifter]

Of course, marijuana is currently a gateway drug, though that might change if it was legalizied.

[Venom112]

Of course, marijuana is currently a gateway drug, though that might change if it was legalizied.

I am of the belief that the main reason marijuana is a gateway drug is because it is illegal.

[Belial]

You're probably right Venom.