Gundampilotspaz Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Should the UN allow any single nation to control the internet? Should corperations be allowed in on the action? Or should the internet remain as it is, a free zone of which no nation or person has authority? Link to comment
Arcane Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Option number 2. (The latter one) The internet has been running fine as it is for 30ish years now. No need to start making all kinds of governing rules for it. The internet works fine under self rule. Link to comment
margot Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I can't understand why you would be for censorship. Though, the US government can already take action against you depending on what you say on the internet, and a lot of countries filter content. Link to comment
darkon Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 (edited) Create a global body to oversee it. That way no laws can be passed because global bodies always fail. Pedophelia needs to be eliminated however. Edited November 24, 2005 by darkon Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 The only nation that really censors the internet now is China. They made I think it was yahoo news edit things that were pro-capitalist or anti-chinese communism. Link to comment
margot Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Also some middle east countries Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4460168.stm This seems to fit, it is an article about how the chinese hate the BBC, and goes into censorship in China. Link to comment
Ceraziefish Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 The internet should be exactly what it is, a tool of communication. Governments can set up their own servers and set up their own networks and censor that -- however, I think that the internet, and internet access, and use of the internet (putting your own stuff on it), should be free to everyone. Of course, this leads to some unfortnate side effects (pedophilia and such; ever tried to torrent something only to find it was bestiality porn?). But I can't think of how to do it effectively without messing with people's use. Controlling the internet is just as bad as controlling what people say. Link to comment
Poophy Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 (edited) The way it works right now is basically a bunch of people trying to protect their own interests (trying to avoid scams, hackers est....), which seems fine to me. But I think that the suggestion of giving some body control of the internet was to try and stop these types of things, more than trying to censer it. Personally, I like it the way it is and don’t believe that any such body should, or even could really exist. There are billions of sights, and that number is growing every day(note: I typed “the into google, I got 9,240,000,000 sights… the current world population is about 6,446,131,400) no single organization can control that. Edited November 26, 2005 by poophy san Link to comment
Ceraziefish Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 The way it works right now is basically a bunch of people trying to protect their own interests (trying to avoid scams, hackers est....), which seems fine to me. But I think that the suggestion of giving some body control of the internet was to try and stop these types of things, more than trying to censer it. Personally, I like it the way it is and don’t believe that any such body should, or even could really exist. There are billions of sights, and that number is growing every day(note: I typed “the into google, I got 9,240,000,000 sights… the current world population is about 6,446,131,400) no single organization can control that. HACK THE PLANET! Link to comment
darkon Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 ever tried to torrent something only to find it was bestiality porn? Repressed memories returning... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~! Link to comment
Kreutz Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 The internet won't always be free. Sooner or later, one state/organization will secure the net and use it to their own needs. It's just another source of information, like the newspapers and TV. Look at how free those two are. Link to comment
Galkar Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 You think TV is not free? Go turn on public access and say that! Link to comment
Kreutz Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 You think TV is not free? Go turn on public access and say that! Apparently, your public access station isn't owned by the same company as the newspaper and the cable service like mine is. Link to comment
Ceraziefish Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Yeah, the Seattle Public Access Network is run by a community college (that actually isn't in Seattle, but whatever). However, it might get bought up by Comcast soon. And they do censor a little. Mike Hunt TV finally got taken off. That was the show where this creepy guy narrated porn videos. Link to comment
Belial Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I should control the internet! In fact, I'm going to create a petition to do just that. My first order of business when I am appointed Supreme Emperor of the Intarweb will be to out law random SD&D topics. Link to comment
Kreutz Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Mike Hunt TV finally got taken off. That was the show where this creepy guy narrated porn videos. Don't worry, MTV will probably pick it up. Link to comment
Reinas Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 The internet should be free of some governement, institution control. While it is a place of free speech, some things such as death threats and hate sites should be monitored. After all, the internet is a great influence on young adults and adolescents. More screwed up kids means more screwed up future. Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 The internet should be free of some governement, institution control. While it is a place of free speech, some things such as death threats and hate sites should be monitored. After all, the internet is a great influence on young adults and adolescents. More screwed up kids means more screwed up future. I think if the kid is screwed up then they are screwed up, no website is going to make them that way. It is the same with the violent video game argument. Link to comment
Kreutz Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Apparently, some Jews don't really like the internet too much. Link to comment
Poophy Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 That’s just a bunch of people that believe that it’s better to hide things from children rather than expose them to the world. Link to comment
margot Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 zzz why is it always non parents who are experts on parenting. Link to comment
Arcane Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The internet won't always be free. Sooner or later, one state/organization will secure the net and use it to their own needs. It's just another source of information, like the newspapers and TV. Look at how free those two are. That's not really possible with the internet. Sure, a country could cut off all it's nations communication lines with other servers worldwide, but that would only give them their own mini internet. The rest of the internet would still be in existance as it was, except there would be a large gap cut out. The internet is a network of private and public networks worldwide, it's not very plausible that one entity could gain control of all these networks. And in the chance that it does happen, then well, we start a new internet. Link to comment
Kreutz Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 That's not really possible with the internet. Sure, a country could cut off all it's nations communication lines with other servers worldwide, but that would only give them their own mini internet. The rest of the internet would still be in existance as it was, except there would be a large gap cut out. The internet is a network of private and public networks worldwide, it's not very plausible that one entity could gain control of all these networks. And in the chance that it does happen, then well, we start a new internet. Well, the majority of the internet is still at risk of consolidation under one power, should certain leaders get their wish and institute a one-world government. Even if it's a matter of several organizations controlling large parts of the internet, the information war which would follow could destroy the web. Imagine each organization instituting their own protocols, restricting access to their networks, etc. Sure, the private nets could consolidate to create a new network, but with the corporations contolling the physical lines of communication (phone lines, satellites, so on) it would be very hard to do so. I'm pretty sure I just sumarized the plots to several cyberpunk novels there, so I'll stop. Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) I'm pretty sure I just sumarized the plot to every cyberpunk novel there, so I'll stop. fixed Edited November 30, 2005 by Gundampilotspaz Link to comment
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