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http://mediamatters.org/items/200511210003

Yeah, so the conservatives have been complaining about this one all month now. I personally see this as a non-issue and just something new for the conservatives to use to try and scare the right to thier side. Thier just words for christ sake. I really don't care either way. In fact It's probably just more convient to say "Happy Holidays" rather then saying "Happy Hanukkah." "Merry Christmas," "Happy New Year" etc.

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This is total nonsense. I don't think even any of the normal-thinking atheists would mind if somebody greeted them "Merry Christmas".

It is nonsense, but in both ways and on both sides.

You see people like that read about things like Illinois forbidding its government workers from saying the words "Merry Christmas" or the New Jersey school that banned even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols or the Arizona school officials that ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any reference to the religious history of Christmas and the list goes on.... They see stuff like that and knowing "where" (who) it's coming from, they can't help but think the worst.

Plus if bitching about it makes them idiots, then what does that make the people wasting their time going around changing and bitching about this stuff in the first place?

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In response to a guest's argument that nondenominational salutations did not offend Christians, O'Reilly responded, "Yes, it does. It absolutely does."

If this guy is offended by things like “happy holidays” imagine how he would react if someone wished him a happy Hanukah

“It's the winter break, as if people worship winter. And there wouldn't be a winter break if there wasn't Christmas at that time of year”

For starters, some people do worship winter, theyre the people that you got your Christmas tree from. Also, there would be a break around that time any way, there is a week off from school every couple of months any way

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Hmm, as I've been getting older I've been hearing the word "Christmas" less and less.

Whether or not you want to call it a "war" is up to you (I personally think that's a little over-exaggerated), but there certainly has been a ridiculous push to stop saying the word "Christmas".

As for O'Reilly, I disagree with most of what he says but find him highly amusing.

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For a performance in its "winter program," a Wisconsin elementary school has changed the beloved Christmas carol "Silent Night," calling the song "Cold in the Night" and secularizing the lyrics.

According to Liberty Counsel, a religious-liberty law firm representing a student's parent, kids who attend Ridgeway Elementary School in Dodgeville, Wis., will sing the following lyrics to the tune of "Silent Night":

Cold in the night, no one in sight, winter winds whirl and bite, how I wish I were happy and warm, safe with my family out of the storm.

Pathetic.

NO CHRISTMAS COLORS IN PLANO TEXAS SCHOOLS

"School officials have gone so far as to prohibit students from wearing red and green at their ‘winter break’ parties because they claim they are Christmas colors. Even the plates and napkins must be white."

Theres more crap like this going on that you don't hear much about. While small and isolated now, who knows whats down the road.

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Wait, how could anyone possibly care about this?

Christmas is NOT a religious holiday. For every person who celebrates Christmas because it's Jesus's birthday there are at least five hundred who celebrate it because that's when their mom makes them a nice dinner and when their relatives send them stuff.

Although I did like how his reasoning for why we shouldn't outlaw Christmas was so that people could pass a bunch of things that I support.

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Christmas is NOT a religious holiday. For every person who celebrates Christmas because it's Jesus's birthday there are at least five hundred who celebrate it because that's when their mom makes them a nice dinner and when their relatives send them stuff.

Regardless, at its root it is a religious holiday. Just like Halloween originated from Celtic, Druidic, and Pagan rituals. The roots of Christmas, however, are far more influential and active.

I dunno whether God is real or not, Christmas (right now) is mainly just a tradition, but that isn't the point. Whether or not you believe in what it is celebrating is up to you, but at heart it *is* celebrating the birth of Jesus. Note the name "Christmas". It is very much a religious holiday.

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Regardless, at its root it is a religious holiday. Just like Halloween originated from Celtic, Druidic, and Pagan rituals. The roots of Christmas, however, are far more influential and active.

I dunno whether God is real or not, Christmas (right now) is mainly just a tradition, but that isn't the point. Whether or not you believe in what it is celebrating is up to you, but at heart it *is* celebrating the birth of Jesus. Note the name "Christmas". It is very much a religious holiday.

It's a corporate holiday, get over it.

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