Woot! 3000!

[Belial]

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The death toll for coalition military forces in Iraq hit 3,000 Monday, according to a CNN tally.

The combined death toll includes 2,759 U.S. troops and seven American civilian contractors of the military.

Other coalition deaths include 119 British, 32 Italians, 18 Ukrainians, 17 Poles, 13 Bulgarians, and 11 Spaniards, as well as service members from Australia, Denmark, Estonia, Fiji, Holland, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Romania, Salvador, Slovakia, and Thailand.

The milestone was reached after U.S. military officials announced the deaths of five U.S. soldiers and Marines over the weekend.

Two U.S. soldiers were killed Sunday and two were wounded during fighting in Kirkuk, the U.S. military said Monday. The soldiers were assigned to 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division.

Earlier, officials announced the death of another U.S. soldier serving with Multi-National Division - Baghdad, killed late Sunday when his vehicle was hit by a bomb north of Baghdad.

Two U.S. Marines assigned to Regimental Combat Team 5 also died Sunday during combat operations in Anbar province, west of Baghdad, the military said.

In October, U.S. officials have reported 52 service member deaths, for a total of 586 this year.

The Iraqi death toll continued to rise on Monday as well.

In the latest attack, two car bombs exploded about 5:20 p.m. (10:20 a.m. ET) in northeast Baghdad, killing 20 people and wounding 17, officials said.

The first bomb obliterated a tent packed with mourners at the funeral of a father of an Iraqi police officer. Among those killed and wounded were Iraqi police officers, an official with Qudous police station told CNN. The second car bomb exploded at the same time in an outdoor market just few hundred yards away, the official said.

Monday's violence in Baghdad began shortly after sunrise.

Three people were killed and seven wounded, including six Iraqi police, when two roadside bombs exploded within 30 minutes, according to an official with Baghdad emergency police.

About an hour later, a roadside bomb attack wounded three Iraqi police as they patrolled near the University of Technology in southeastern Baghdad, police said.

Seven people, including four Iraqi police, were wounded an hour after that, when a car bomb exploded targeting another Iraqi police patrol in southeastern Baghdad, police reported.

Three Iraqi civilians died and six people, including one Iraqi soldier, were wounded in clashes Monday afternoon between gunmen and Iraqi soldiers in Midas square in northern Baghdad.

Baghdad emergency police said 26 bullet-riddled bodies were found by Iraqi police in various Baghdad neighborhoods Monday. Some bodies showed signs of torture, police said. Officials said they could not immediately identify the bodies.

In Khalis, a town near Baquba and about 50 miles north of Baghdad, gunmen opened fire on a crowd of people in a bus station Monday in Iraq, killing four and wounding three others, an official said.

In a separate attack two hours earlier on a road between Khalis and Baquba, gunmen shot into a car, killing two people, including an Iraqi police officer, and wounding another, a local official said.

Three bullet-riddled bodies, including that of an Iraqi police officer, were found by police Monday morning in Baquba.

Another three people were killed later Monday by gunmen in Muqdadiya, about 25 miles north of Baquba.

In the town of Suwayrah, south of Baghdad, at least eight people were killed and 20 others were wounded when a car bomb exploded in a busy outdoor market, the mayor said. Hospital officials said nine people were killed and another 35 were wounded in the attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/16/...main/index.html

And they've been saying over 600,000 civilian deaths. Fuck this fucking war and fuck our imperialism. This is not Justice.

[darkon]

LIBERAQL MEDIA MAKIJG UO NUMBERS!~~!!!~~!!!!U!!!1SA!!!!!

This is exactly what I said would happen when we went in. It wasn't even a question of WMDs or any of that. It was a 14 year old me telling everybody I knew we were entering quicksand and would not be able to get out for years. Even if we wanted to what was in the best interests of everyone (Which I highly doubt) it would be a failure. We just can't do it, no matter what we want or hope to be the result. And now, look at what's happened. If we leave we've just created another terrorist nation. If we stay and continue working on making progress it will take years upon years and even then there's little to no guarantee of things actually working once we leave. It's just a terrible mess.

[Cleese]

Hmmm, Saddam's trial is a joke and whatever the verdict, it will lead to violent responses. Iraq's heading into (if not already) a civil war with secular violence increasing everyday. This shitstorm is never going to end the way we want it to, doesn't matter if what were doing is right or not, you get enough people to believe in something it becomes the truth.

[Gundampilotspaz]

Lets ignore the 700,000 dead Iraqi's

[James_xeno]

And they've been saying over 600,000 civilian deaths.

Bullshit!

Ali Dabbagh, an Iraqi government spokesman, said in a statement that the report "gives exaggerated figures that contradict the simplest rules of accuracy and investigation."

Researchers randomly selected 1,849 households across Iraq and asked questions about births and deaths and migration for the study

Even the biggest anti-west/US fucktards, using the most bias and overrepresentational methodologies. Don't have numbers that come anywhere near even close to that! Until I see a lot more proof, I call a really, REALLY big bullshit on this!

[Ceraziefish]

Although I won't be as hostile as James, that does seem a bit high. I imagine there was a bit of sardonic hyperbole in there, however.

Anyway, at the topic at hand... This war is pretty lame and accomplishing nothing.

[Gundampilotspaz]

Even the biggest anti-west/US fucktards, using the most bias and overrepresentational methodologies. Don't have numbers that come anywhere near even close to that! Until I see a lot more proof, I call a really, REALLY big bullshit on this!

Even a fourth of that is too many.

[darkon]

Probably someone fucked up with a zero. The number could be more around 60,000... but even then that seems too much. But then again, there was a lot of bombing done.

[Cleese]

[amy]

Does it bother anyone else that we don't count Iraqi civilian deaths?

It really scares me.

Of course it is an excellent tactic though because the conservatives can deny any figure that is put forth. "12345? WHAT, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! THE ARMY DOES NOT GET THAT FIGURE". But the army gets no figure, the army does not care.

[Poophy]

Even a fourth of that is too many.

1 is too many…

A war that is justified by the fact that it is supposedly saving the lives of American citizens, is unjustified if I kills other civilians in the process…

[cappy]

thats becasue the blood of arabs is not worth as much as the blood of americans. its how we justify every war, every act of imperialism, using the atom bomb, taking native lands, attacking every country whose doctrine we disagree with... etc. how many arab lives does it take to equal one american? the sad truth is, subconsciously americans think this way, its in our racist history books and all around us.

[Cleese]

dehumanizing the enemy makes it easier to kill them.

[Belial]

This is a fun little website. Lets me keep up on the current Blood to Oil exchange rate.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

[Ceraziefish]

"Nifty" is certainly the word I'd use right there.

Really it's pretty sobering. And I'm sure that there are a lot more dead Iraqis than that. The sad thing is that everyone is making such much bigger deal about one dead American than 1,000 dead Iraqis.

EDIT:

Even a fourth of that is too many.

Does it bother anyone else that we don't count Iraqi civilian deaths?

It really scares me.

Of course it is an excellent tactic though because the conservatives can deny any figure that is put forth. "12345? WHAT, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! THE ARMY DOES NOT GET THAT FIGURE". But the army gets no figure, the army does not care.

1 is too many…

A war that is justified by the fact that it is supposedly saving the lives of American citizens, is unjustified if I kills other civilians in the process…

All excellent posts.

[Belial]

The sad thing is that everyone is making such much bigger deal about one dead American than 1,000 dead Iraqis.

Thats what the Illusion of the State will do.

[Cleese]

Thats what the Illusion of the State will do.

I'd rather call it 'tarnishing imagery'

[Samurai Drifter]