What bands do you think have

[Cip]

Generally speaking the most influential and ground breaking bands have all been in the 60's or 70's, from a generation most of us did not grow up in. Though from the 80s-Present day what bands do you think have really stood out in music and brought a new element to the table the way older bands such as Floyd, or Zeppelin have. This is completely opinionated, you can either list bands effecting mainstream music or specific genres.

For me theres only a few bands I believe really created something new sounding that could influence a variety of musical styles.

-Radiohead, for the most part I think they've innovated a sound that many modern bands are trying to create.

-The Smiths, they've influenced close to every indie band I can think of and have even been noted to have influenced other bands such as the Deftones, and Fall out Boy, even though Fall Out Boy sucks.

-REM, they just rule and have that premature alternative sound.

I really want to say Metallica and Nirvana too, but if I did I'd just be saying what every VH1 and MTV special has already said, so Im gonna go with Primus simply because there is no band you can mistake for primus. Im sure there are a bunch of bands Im missing, but its late and Im tired.

[FaultyClockwork]

Dream Theater has really influenced prog and many musicians both in and out of metal.

Some how, though, they manage to attain the "Dream" part of their name byt putting me to sleep.

[Cip]

Dream Theater has really influenced prog and many musicians both in and out of metal.

Some how, though, they manage to attain the "Dream" part of their name byt putting me to sleep.

I was going to mention Dream Theater, because even though as a band their status isnt widely known outside the metal scene, the band's members are all virtuosos when it comes to their instruments and are really recognized, so I agree with you there.

[darkon]

Pixies, The Melvins, Dead Kennedys, and all those other bands that influenced the grunge bands of the early 90's who in turn influenced all the post-grunge bands that have been annoying us for close to 10 years. I'm looking at you Nickelback.

[ROCKSTEADY]

i agree with darkon, only throw radiohead in there somewhere...

[rockerluke]

Iron Maiden. They are the benchmark of what we call metal music. They didn't start it, but they redefined it.

[Chris]

I like this topic, so I'm going to make a long post. I'll try to stay away from bands already mentioned too (except Nirvana).

Bathory - Quorthon invented Black Metal. it would never be the same if there was no Bathory, same goes for Viking Metal too. If their was no Bathory, their wouldnt have been Norweign Black Metal. All those bands are Bathory rip-offs (but in a good way)

Burzum - If this band wasn't around (though in the wrong idea) there wouldnt be NSBM, or possibly black metal as its known today. Even aside from Burzum, Varg is very influential. If you haven't already, read his biography on www.burzum.org. The was sound is completely different from any band of its time. His ambient music is fuckin genius too.

Cradle Of Filth & Dimmu Borgir - As much as I don't want to really don't want to say it, their modern sound, actually further popularized black metal. Though its not really black metal, it did make the genre more known.

Death - Extremely influencial. Chuck was easily one of the most immpressive muscians in music history. A huge loss to metal.

Korn - They popularized a new sound, nu metal, for that they are innovative and influential.

Nirvana - I don't like them. But, they are awesome. I say that, because they put an end to 80s Hair Metal.

Nokturnal Mortum - One of the only really really good NSBM bands out there and one of the biggest of the genre. The most famous metal (and possibly music) band to come out of Ukraine. Thier music is necessarily groudnbreaking, but they deserve a mention.

Slipknot - I know I'm going to get shit for this, but they are influential to alot of bands out there. As much as they shove everything they've ever done down our throats, most of the things they have done, no one else has. Their sound even influenced the great Peter Tagtgren so much, he changed the sound of Hypocrisy.

Summoning - Groundbreaking. Unique. Influential. NO BAND sounds like Summoning.

Honorable mentions for Eluveite, Turisas, and Asmegin. I honestly believe those three are going to be HUGE one day.

[Tanni Foemangler]

Neurosis. you know what i'm talking about

[FaultyClockwork]

I was going to mention Dream Theater, because even though as a band their status isnt widely known outside the metal scene, the band's members are all virtuosos when it comes to their instruments and are really recognized, so I agree with you there.

A load of people who play instruments love the crap out of Dream Theater, as do many a prog fan, so yeah, they are rather important.

Sorry about the shot at DT guys, needed to let out some negative energy. XD

I'm looking at you Nickelback.

I just wanted to say that I really fucking at that band.

And their name is stupid.

Bathory - Quorthon invented Black Metal. it would never be the same if there was no Bathory, same goes for Viking Metal too. If their was no Bathory, their wouldnt have been Norweign Black Metal. All those bands are Bathory rip-offs (but in a good way)

Burzum - If this band wasn't around (though in the wrong idea) there wouldnt be NSBM, or possibly black metal as its known today. Even aside from Burzum, Varg is very influential. If you haven't already, read his biography on www.burzum.org. The was sound is completely different from any band of its time. His ambient music is fuckin genius too.

Cradle Of Filth & Dimmu Borgir - As much as I don't want to really don't want to say it, their modern sound, actually further popularized black metal. Though its not really black metal, it did make the genre more known.

Bathory is like THE most famous and influential of the 1st wave Black Metal/Proto-Black Metal, and they single-handedly invented Viking metal. All BM and Viking Metal fans owe them a great deal.

I think that NSBM would be around without Burzum... I might be wrong, but it seems like that could grow out of the scene regardless, and Burzum isn't actually NSBM.

Have you read Lords of Chaos? There was a part where they talk about Dimmu Borgir and how they make multiple advertisements with different levels of gore in the same picture so that they could seem more or less "evil" so as to sell more records to people in the mainstream.

And... Black Sabbath, because they invented metal. Also, Elvis for popularizing "black" music.

[Nega-Brent]

Red Hot Chili Peppers

Nine Inch Nails

The Cure

Placebo

The Flaming Lips

[Belial]

Green Day

Smashing Pumpkins

The White Stripes

Dashboard Confessional

Dave Matthews

I might not like all of these bands, but I definitely see a lot of emulation of their respective sounds.

Also I'm going to have to say that The Clash and The Cure have been extremely influential even though they lie right outside of the two decade mark.

[Chris]

I think that NSBM would be around without Burzum... I might be wrong, but it seems like that could grow out of the scene regardless, and Burzum isn't actually NSBM.

Have you read Lords of Chaos? There was a part where they talk about Dimmu Borgir and how they make multiple advertisements with different levels of gore in the same picture so that they could seem more or less "evil" so as to sell more records to people in the mainstream.

And... Black Sabbath, because they invented metal. Also, Elvis for popularizing "black" music.

I know Burzum isn't NSBM. I said "though in the wrong idea". But I'm just saying the fact that people thought he was a nazi influenced it. (BTW theres a new batch of articles on burzum.org, the Lords Of Chaos Pt. II one is a good yet short read). Last week I download the the entire Lords Of Chaos book. I gotta read that soon, but what I've heard and read about it, it seems liek the authors don't really know their facts.

[FaultyClockwork]

I know Burzum isn't NSBM. I said "though in the wrong idea". But I'm just saying the fact that people thought he was a nazi influenced it. (BTW theres a new batch of articles on burzum.org, the Lords Of Chaos Pt. II one is a good yet short read). Last week I download the the entire Lords Of Chaos book. I gotta read that soon, but what I've heard and read about it, it seems liek the authors don't really know their facts.

Oops. Musta misread. I'm reading their second edition and it's a very enjoyable read. They don't say much without backing it up. There are a crap load of interviews with people inside and outside of the scene and even with professionals in various fields. I find it rather informative and very interesting.

[Crube]

Korn - They popularized a new sound, nu metal, for that they are innovative and influential.

They also influenced Sepultura and Machine Head (I think) to change their sound. You can see this with Sepultura in their album "Roots". Plus, I credit Anthrax for having a hand in creating nu metal with their song "I'm The Man" and the collaboration with Public Enemy on their song "Bring The Noise".

[Belial]

Fuck, I wouldn't even know where to begin. It seems that any bad that I think is revolutionary is influenced by another band that I think is revolutionary, and onward.

Yeah, thats the way it goes, but I figure if you focus on the bands that reached a huge audience you'll probably be covering the bases pretty well.

[Wind]

Dream Theater - Pioneering Progressive Metal, and arguably the most talented set of musicians in one band.

Nine Inch Nails - Industrial would not be anything without NIN

Faith No More - In europe, FNM is credited as the first Nu-Metal band, while I may not agree with that - they are insanely talented and did things nobody at the time was doing, include unique and just plain crazy vocal melodies and instrumentation.

The Prodigy - Industrial / Dance being put into the mainstream, helped along with NIN further open Industrial and Electronic music to people.

Blind Guardian - No doubt the most influential Power Metal band, also one of the first, and easily the most important.

more later.

[PMA]

Nokturnal Mortum being one of the most influential bands in the last what who when what? :unsure:

[Battle_Pope]

I think there's far too much credit given to NIN as far as industrial goes. Saying industrial wouldn't be anything is IMO an overstatement.

[darkon]

They also influenced Sepultura and Machine Head (I think) to change their sound. You can see this with Sepultura in their album "Roots". Plus, I credit Anthrax for having a hand in creating nu metal with their song "I'm The Man" and the collaboration with Public Enemy on their song "Bring The Noise".

You forgot the man who is the reason rap and metal ever were combined in the first place.

Mike Patton. And not just his work in Faith no More, though as Wind says they were the band who led to Rage and then all the rap metal that followed.

As for NIN's influence on Industrial. Lol. They made some great albums, had a few great mainstream singles, and were able to bring the genre out of the underground for a little while. That's a good thing, and important, but Industrial was thriving before them. And, no, KMFDM isn't the most important Industrial band either. As surprising as that sounds coming from me: Mr. I Get a Boner Thinking About the letter K thanks to KMFDM.

[Battle_Pope]

You forgot the man who is the reason rap and metal ever were combined in the first place.

Rick Rubin, but even there are still people who combined them in a very much different way before that.

As far as industrial, saying KMFDM were the most important would indeed be wrong, because you'd be undermining the work of Throbbing Gristle, Einsturzende Neubauten, and a whole lot of thers. The whole dadaism movement pretty much started that whole thing, but even then it's really not that simple to say such a thing.

[darkon]

Rick Rubin, but even there are still people who combined them in a very much different way before that.

As far as industrial, saying KMFDM were the most important would indeed be wrong, because you'd be undermining the work of Throbbing Gristle, Einsturzende Neubauten, and a whole lot of thers. The whole dadaism movement pretty much started that whole thing, but even then it's really not that simple to say such a thing.

Brian Eno has to be included in discussion of early Industrial influences too. Hell, Eno needs to be mentioned as an influence when talking about anything electronic.

[Battle_Pope]

oh definitely, and you COULD say he also got the whole drone thing going. Him and Robert Fripp collaborated in 1975 and again in 2004, mixing Eno's ambient stuff with Fripp's incredible guitar playing.

[Belial]

This is what bands do you think have influenced music, not producers, though arguably some producers have done far more than any band to sway the trends of the industry.

[Battle_Pope]

very true, and it does show that it's more than just the bands. I guess confining it to just the bands really does confine what could be very good discussion.

[Chris]

Nokturnal Mortum being one of the most influential bands in the last what who when what?

I know they aren't necessarilly one of the most influenced, I said "they deserve a mention."