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I Am the Very Model of a Modern Libertarian

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*clears throat*

http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/web_op/mid/pp13.mid <-- play this and read

I am the very model of a modern Libertarian:

I teem with glowing notions for proposals millenarian,

I've nothing but contempt for ideologies collectivist

(My own ideas of social good tend more toward the Objectivist).

You see, I've just discovered, by my intellectual bravery,

That civic obligations are all tantamount to slavery;

And thus that ancient pastime, viz., complaining of taxation,

Assumes the glorious aspect of a war for liberation!

[Chorus:]

You really must admit it's a delightful revelation:

To bitch about your taxes is to fight for liberation!

I bolster up my claims with lucubrations rather risible

About the Founding Fathers and the market's hand invisible;

In fact, my slight acquaintance with the fountainhead Pierian

Makes me the very model of a modern Libertarian!

[Chorus:]

His very slight acquaintance with the fountainhead Pierian

Makes him the very model of a modern Libertarian!

All "public wealth" is robbery, we never will accede to it;

You have no rights in anything if you can't show your deed to it.

(But don't fear repossession by our Amerind minority:

Those treaties aren't valid---Uncle Sam had no authority!)

We realize whales and wolves and moose find wilderness quite vital,

And we'll give back their habitats---if they can prove their title.

But people like unspoiled lands (we too will say "hooray" for them),

So we have faith that someone else will freely choose to pay for them.

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Yes, when the parks are auctioned it will be a lucky day for them---

We're confident that someone else will freely choose to pay for them!

We'll guard the health of nature by self-interest most astute:

Since pollution is destructive, no one ever will pollute.

Thus factories will safeguard our communities riparian---

I am the very model of a modern Libertarian!

[Chorus:]

Yes, factories will safeguard our communities riparian,

He is the very model of a modern Libertarian!

In short, when I can tell why individual consumers

Know best who should approve their drugs and who should treat their tumors;

Why civilized existence in its intricate confusion

Will be simple and straightforward, absent government intrusion;

Why markets cannot err within the system I've described,

Why poor folk won't be bullied and why rich folk won't be bribed,

And why all vast inequities of power and position

Will vanish when I wave my wand and utter "COMPETITION!"---

[Chorus:]

He's so much more exciting than a common politician,

Inequities will vanish when he hollers "Competition!"

---And why my lofty rhetoric and arguments meticulous

Inspire shouts of laughter and the hearty cry, "Ridiculous!",

And why my social theories all seem so pre-Sumerian---

I'll be the very model of a modern Libertarian!

[Chorus:]

His novel social theories all seem so pre-Sumerian---

He is the very model of a modern Libertarian!

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How is Anarchy in any way leftist?

Libertarianism ( true libertarianism) is boarder line Anarchy. However we realize that a society cannot function without any structure at all. So a small, starved government is all that we wish for. We are in the same business.

Leftists want large government, backwards socialists and the like. If you are an anarcho-communist, you are nothing more than sucm that the earth that this world would be better off without.

Oh so bacically the type of person I'm out to kill! :hardgay:

No, not at all. We believe that Government has no rights or power to interfere with the rights or business of individual citizens. The Government should be small, starved and harmless. With little or no power other than protection and national structure. We believe government has no power to intrude in the rights of people at all. The only win is in harming someone unnecessarily.

We believe that people can survive without government lording over us. Opening schools, roads, and other government maintained structures to the free market will make for a better quality product and much cheaper.

"Tell me what your taxes pay for, I may wish to buy it myself." -The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

Leftist "Anarcists", if that is what Belial truly claims to be, believe in no personal property, no personal freedom. A faceless world in which the individual is ignored for the survival of the state. Total "government" control, although there is no formal government. They become slaves to their own system of rule. A pathetic dream of even more pathetic men.

A rich, fat, white man, who doesn't want to pay taxes.

Fuck you! How could you claim in any way to be an Anarchist and then say this?! It's as if logic escapes you.

Perhaps you just love to spread that symbol all over the place just to get a worthless reaction from ignorant people.

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Show me a poor libertarian. They don't exist. Only the rich still try vainly to hold up the rotting behemoth that is Capitalism. Capitalism isn't freedom, it isn't love, it sure as hell isn't equality, it's the rich standing on the corpses of the poor that they enslave and murder at their will like cattle.

Libertarians could never be anarchists anyway since they love their money too much, which, in case you had forgotten, is a product of the state. You can't have it both ways.

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Show me an intelligent Communist. They exist beyond reason, beyond logic. Your ideals are a pipe dream where you hope everyone will get along in a happy fairly land where they can sing songs under rainbows while unicorns ride them into the sky.

Money is simply the driving force of a modern economy, it could be anything. Steel, grain, the barter system. There need not be a state, we've just granted them that power in order for the Union to have a universal system of currency.

I don't care what you believe, but don't mask being a Communist by calling yourself an Anarchist. Communists have no freedom, only the illusion of freedom. They are slaves to their perfect world.

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Libertarianism ( true libertarianism) is boarder line Anarchy. However we realize that a society cannot function without any structure at all. So a small, starved government is all that we wish for. We are in the same business.

A small, starved government wouldn't have enough power to give any structure to a society with as many people as the United States. We need a government that's large enough to maintain public services and give the people what they need, but at the same time one that recognizes the civil rights of its citizens. That's what we democrats (well, most leftists in general) strive to create.

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That's what we democrats (well, most leftists in general) strive to create.

While GPS and myself won't agree on much, I'm sure we'll both agree that Democrats are hardly left.

Anyone who's ever approached me saying that the Democratic and Republican parties are mortal enemies who want to lead this country in totally different directions is met with the same response from myself.

"Oceana has always been at war with Eastasia"

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How is Anarchy in any way leftist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_left

Leftist "Anarcists", if that is what Belial truly claims to be, believe in no personal property, no personal freedom. A faceless world in which the individual is ignored for the survival of the state. Total "government" control, although there is no formal government. They become slaves to their own system of rule. A pathetic dream of even more pathetic men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

Someone needs to brush up on their reading me thinks...

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I don't know any intelligent Communists (except the ones who were born in communist China)

An ideal libertarian society would be like an ideal Communist society though, with more rich people and more people wandering off into the desert to seek spiritual knowledge.

Like a communist society, a libertarian society could never work because the rich would within three hours form a classical English monarchy and condemn everyone else to serfdom. (I just felt like posting here)

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Like a communist society, a libertarian society could never work because the rich would within three hours form a classical English monarchy and condemn everyone else to serfdom. (I just felt like posting here)

But a Libertarian Society's ideals and aid and help our current society far more than Communistic ideals.

A small, starved government wouldn't have enough power to give any structure to a society with as many people as the United States. We need a government that's large enough to maintain public services and give the people what they need, but at the same time one that recognizes the civil rights of its citizens. That's what we democrats (well, most leftists in general) strive to create.

Foolish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_left

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

Someone needs to brush up on their reading me thinks...

Anarchist-capitalism is the only form I will accept.

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