cappy Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 nsfw (offensive language) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T7uKvpzVXI Link to comment
margot Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 That man needs a good beating. Luckily no one cares about a washed up seinfeld actor. Link to comment
Samurai Drifter Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 What the hell? I can understand why he'd be mad if the people were interrupting him, but the black dude was right, all that racist crap was uncalled for. He does deserve a beating. I want to see what the manager says after that... Link to comment
Crube Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 So, it is alright for black comedians to poke at white people, but when it is the other way around, it is completely wrong? So, people snap when they have a shit day. I just think everyone is taking this way too serious. Plus, couldn't anyone tell he was being sarcastic when he was saying "nigger"? And there are other comedians out there that does the whole race thing, but does that make them racist too? Comedians such as Pryor, Rock, Mencia, and so on does this stuff in their acts! Link to comment
margot Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It didn't seem like he was joking. Besides I think he just stepped over the line anyway. I've never heard a black comedian tell a white guy in an audience to not talk when black people are talking or talking about how lynching was a great thing. I mean, non "pc" humor, whatever, but it didn't even seem like it was even trying to be funny. It was just some crazy white guy ranting about niggers. Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Who gets offended at a comedy show... Link to comment
Crube Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It didn't seem like he was joking. Besides I think he just stepped over the line anyway. I've never heard a black comedian tell a white guy in an audience to not talk when black people are talking or talking about how lynching was a great thing. Yes, but it is disprespect to ANYONE if you talk during their act. Link to comment
cappy Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 its one thing to identify racial stereotypes in a comical context. its another thing to propagate hate speech. this was not funny, it was hatred. never should the word nigger be said, i dont CARE. chris rock, pryor, yeah they do make fun of whites, but you know what? 95% of their shit is making fun of BLACKS so whatever. never have i heard them straight out HATE though. Link to comment
margot Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Yes, but it is disprespect to ANYONE if you talk during their act. Yes, but that's not an excuse for a racist tirade. It doesn't even really make sense. If a guy is being rude to you, it doesn't have much to do with his race. Link to comment
darkon Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 This is hate speech plain and simple. Link to comment
cappy Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 yeah 100% i cant even believe we're having this discussion. Link to comment
Crube Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 its one thing to identify racial stereotypes in a comical context. its another thing to propagate hate speech. this was not funny, it was hatred. never should the word nigger be said, i dont CARE. chris rock, pryor, yeah they do make fun of whites, but you know what? 95% of their shit is making fun of BLACKS so whatever. never have i heard them straight out HATE though. Yes, Pryor used it as a shock and satire as well as Rock, but we shouldn't be judging anyone at this point. Yes, but that's not an excuse for a racist tirade. It doesn't even really make sense. If a guy is being rude to you, it doesn't have much to do with his race. Emotions tend to control a lot of people. This is hate speech plain and simple. This coming from a person who thinks someone is being racist because they gave them subtitles. Next. Edit: Calling for a beating for a person doesn't make you any better either. Link to comment
margot Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 emotions aren't really a good defense... um, are you listening to yourself? It seems like you're just playing devil's advocate because you want to be contrary. Link to comment
Crube Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 emotions aren't really a good defense... um, are you listening to yourself? It seems like you're just playing devil's advocate because you want to be contrary. No, I find it silly to be judging right away when most of us doesn't really know what really happened. Link to comment
Belial Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 um, are you listening to yourself? It seems like you're just playing devil's advocate because you want to be contrary. Or Crube is the Grand Dragon... = ? Just kidding. Link to comment
Ceraziefish Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It's hate speech, sure, but I can see where he was going with it. That doesn't make it okay, I'm just saying, it was in the context of trying to be funny. But it wasn't funny, it was just offensive. Whatever, I hope he works through his shit... Link to comment
cappy Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 wow. malcolm x is crying in his grave right now. you all need a fucking reality check. Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 wow. malcolm x is crying in his grave right now. you all need a fucking reality check. Hate speech is still speech. All speech is free. Link to comment
Ceraziefish Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 wow. malcolm x is crying in his grave right now. you all need a fucking reality check. Did I say it was in any way okay? No, I didn't! All I said was I could see how someone could say that and not be a racist fuck beyond all redemption. I think it's horrible and wrong and he's an ass, but I'm just saying people shouldn't be lining up to lynch him because he encouraged lynching. Link to comment
cappy Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hate speech is still speech. All speech is free. and i dont care if i get banned for this, how dare you. you are a moron and deserve to get lynched. http://youtube.com/watch?v=heOZSUjejoM i dont know how you can sleep at night man. Link to comment
Ceraziefish Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 and i dont care if i get banned for this, you are a moron and deserve to get lynched. See, how is saying someone should be lynched for being stupid any worse than saying someone should be lynched for being black? I mean, I guess being "stupid" is a real difference as opposed to a percieved difference, but it's still relative, subjective, and a bad disctinction. Link to comment
cappy Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 how is saying someone should be lynched for being stupid any worse than saying someone should be lynched for being black? see years 1600-now. the answer to that question is EASY. Link to comment
Samurai Drifter Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 He DID get interrupted during his act, but that is no excuse. I thought he was joking at first, but when he started going off on the guy and calling him a nigger obviously in anger, that's where I personally draw the line. There are better ways to deal with being heckled; I seem to remember one comedian who said "sir, why don't you put a condom over your head? You're acting like a dick, you might as well dress like one." Hate speech is still speech. All speech is free. I have to agree with GPS on this... It was an asshole thing to do, wrong, stupid, etc. etc... but as long as he isn't threatening violence or harming anyone physically, he has every right to say it under the constitution. The customers can, and did, show their disapproval by walking out (which I would have also done). Link to comment
Crube Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Well, I might as well take back everything I say or cappy will lynch me too. :rolleyes: Link to comment
cappy Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 i never made any personal threats. i just said we're probably better off with him dead. Link to comment
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