James_xeno Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 German gov't considers jail time for gamers Proposed legislation targets pixelated mayhem and virtual violence; legislators consider acts of cruelty against "human-looking characters" as reason enough to fine, imprison. By Emma Boyes, GameSpot UK Posted Dec 12, 2006 9:57 pm GMT Games in Germany already face strict censorship laws--titles such as Gears of War are deemed to be too violent, and the German board of classification (the Unterhaltungssoftware Selbskontrolle) refuses to give them a rating, effectively meaning that the games can be sold only at adults-only retailers. Nazi symbols are also banned in the country, except for art and educational purposes--so games which use them, including the Wolfenstein series, are also banned from being released in Germany. Even games such as Dead Rising are regarded as crossing a threshold of acceptability since violence towards zombies is considered to be too close to violence towards real people. Legislation currently being drafted would take these standards a step further. The bill, which was introduced last week by the states of Bavaria and Lower Saxony, proposes a new offence. Those found guilty of "cruel violence on humans or human-looking characters" could face fines or jail time of up to 12 months--and those it applies to include developers, retailers, and consumers, reports UK newspaper The Guardian. The proposed legislation comes on the heels of a shooting on November 20 where an 18-year-old student went on a shooting rampage and wounded six people in his school before killing himself. Backers of the bill also point to the 2002 Erfurt massacre where another German student shot 13 people, according to the paper. Both incidents have been blamed in the media on violent games, and much has been written about the two shooters' fascination with games such as Half-Life: Counter-Strike. The proposed legislation makes the future for German game companies unclear. One company, Far Cry and Crysis developer Crytek, has already made known its plans to relocate to another country should any legislation of this kind be made law. Fucking wow......... Only in Germany/Europe! Link to comment
Belial Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Well, the Germans are just afraid of themselves on this one. They are so ashamed of WWII that they'll do something like this in attempt to hide from the brutal side of humanity. Link to comment
Ceraziefish Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 And yet they continue to make some of the finest firearms in the world... I just don't get it. It seems like every time I go on to play Source games (mostly Dystopia or Battlegrounds) there are German guys, just sort of off in the corner talkin' German to each other. It's pretty cool. Most of them speak English, too, and they're generally nicer than the Americans (same goes for Australians, too, except obviously they don't speak German). That's pretty stupid indeed. I'm not sure that much discussion is going to happen; if it goes through that's too bad. Link to comment
Kreutz Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Serious. Fucking. Business. Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I've been ignoring this and hoping it would go away. Link to comment
FaultyClockwork Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I can't believe governments still take the media seriously. Whenever there's a school shooting the first thing people investigate after finding out who the Hell the shooter was is whether or not (s)he listens to Metal or plays video games. The concept of a person being mentally unstable seems to go over their heads so they immediately latch on to the possible fact that the shooter regularly sat in his/her room and played Counter Strike while listening to Metallica. Fucking wow......... Only in Germany/Europe! That's a really ass holeish thing to say, don't you think? Link to comment
James_xeno Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 I can't believe governments still take the media seriously. Whenever there's a school shooting the first thing people investigate after finding out who the Hell the shooter was is whether or not (s)he listens to Metal or plays video games. The concept of a person being mentally unstable seems to go over their heads so they immediately latch on to the possible fact that the shooter regularly sat in his/her room and played Counter Strike while listening to Metallica. Couldn't have said it better myself. That's a really ass holeish thing to say, don't you think? Maybe if meant in a general manner, but not within the context of video games. Link to comment
FaultyClockwork Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe if meant in a general manner, but not within the context of video games. Thanks, and I just think that that was really ethnocentric. People could say the same thing with America. Link to comment
Arcane Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 People could say the same thing with America. They do. All the time. Link to comment
J-Stop Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 People could say the same thing with America. Perhaps the same can be said of all regions. Link to comment
FaultyClockwork Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 It can be, but I was just making a counter example. And the fact that everyone else pulls bullshit about America doesn't mean we have to pull bullshit at Europe. Link to comment
The Masterplan Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Whenever there's a school shooting the first thing people investigate after finding out who the Hell the shooter was is whether or not (s)he listens to Metal or plays video games. The concept of a person being mentally unstable seems to go over their heads so they immediately latch on to the possible fact that the shooter regularly sat in his/her room and played Counter Strike while listening to Metallica. ? Damn, I think anyone who ever posted in the music section ever is a possible serial killer then. It's all the damn violence in video games + satan in music. Responsibility? Mental issues? What's that about? But seriously, too fuckin true. Link to comment
thebornotaku Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Dieses ist verzögert. Die deutsche Regierung sollte nicht für die videospiele sich interessieren, die "zu heftig" sind. Link to comment
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