Metal Slug vs. Grand Theft Auto

[The Lone Magician]

I vote Metal Slug, which is partly why I love it.

[Kyoudai]

GTA really isn't that violent. If you shoot someone, they fall down and bleed a bit. If you run someone over they fall down and bleed a bit. If you hit someone with a bat they fall down and bleed a bit.

In Metal Slug, there are all sorts of silly and violent ways for both you and your enemies to die. Fire burns you to a black smoking corpse, acid burns off your clothing and skin, bullets cause your enemies to spray out a satisfying amount of blood, and things like zombies ripping out their own organs to throw at you and even vomiting on you.

Of course its all done in the hilarious comic Metal Slug style, so at first glance it seems not that violent at all. Not to mention the heavy censoring the US Metal Slug games got...

[LeadingMan]

Yeah GTA isn't actually a very violent game. It's just more morally ambiguous. At least in Metal Slug you know you're at war and those are the enemy.

But yeah Metal Slug is way more violent. In fact I'd argue like Kill Bill it gets into the land of so violent it's okay.

[Wind]

doom

[JeremyGEE]

GTA IS more violent. I don't care if the violence isn't rendered to the fullest... Its the principle of the thing. Metal slug is just great arcade goodness.

[GummyBearOfDoom]

I agree GTA is WAAAY more violent. You don't judge violence based on the amount of blood. Metal slug is teh pwnage but you cant beat hookers to death with a baseball bat or shank a cop. In GTA you can take a shotgun go into a store and shoot everyones head off. Sounds violent to me.

[GummyBearOfDoom]

I don't know why this is even a discussion.

I was thinking that after I made a post.

[The Lone Magician]

It's obvious that people have different opinions, THAT'S why.

[Crube]

You do know that it the actual people you kill in GTA are usually criminals and drug dealers, right? There is nothing in the game books that says you have to kill innocent people. Hell, you could go around and send people to hospitals via ambulances, fight fires with a fire engine, and help police stop other criminals.

[GummyBearOfDoom]

I'm not sure you understood. I'm wondering why it even matter what someone's opinion is on the violence level of both of these games.

On one hand we have a 2-D arcade game, on the other, a 3-D action game.

Apples and oranges.

I enjoy oranges more, they quench the thirst and fill the stomach.

[JeremyGEE]

I enjoy oranges more, they quench the thirst and fill the stomach.

Orange for drinking. Apples for eating. Both good. But different.

[LeadingMan]

You guys seem to be confusing violence with moral ambiguity. The two are often together, but not the same.

For example which is more violent, cutting an enemy soldier in half with a knife and his guts falling out or sniping off a hooker you just had sex with's head producing a tiny splurt and then taking back your money?

The answer is the first act. The second one while much worse on moral grounds is a less violent act. While tone and moral content can in turn affect the way violence is percieved. (IE violence in comedies such as domestic violence is largely ignored, the same violence in dramas can be heartwrenching) Regardless the act is the same in both cases.

So really there's no apples to oranges comparison here. It's more of an apple sauce versus apple pie comparison.

And my point is that there is far more apple in metal slug.

[thebornotaku]

GTA IS more violent. I don't care if the violence isn't rendered to the fullest... Its the principle of the thing. Metal slug is just great arcade goodness.

GTA Isn't really that violent. People commit crimes like those in GTA every day, and I would have to say that Metal Slug is noticeably worse. Just read Kyodai's post. What's worse? Guts everywhere, charred remains of people, gratuitious amounts of blood, or people basically falling over and bleeding a bit?

I agree GTA is WAAAY more violent. You don't judge violence based on the amount of blood. Metal slug is teh pwnage but you cant beat hookers to death with a baseball bat or shank a cop. In GTA you can take a shotgun go into a store and shoot everyones head off. Sounds violent to me.

Once again, GTA isn't really that violent. Morally incorrect (based on my morals), yes. I think it's wrong to beat people with baseball bats, I think it's wrong to shank cops, and I think it's wrong to go on a mass murder spree, but it's much worse to flamethrow people, send their guts flying everwhere, and melt people with acid.

I don't know why this is even a discussion.

Likewise.

You do know that it the actual people you kill in GTA are usually criminals and drug dealers, right? There is nothing in the game books that says you have to kill innocent people. Hell, you could go around and send people to hospitals via ambulances, fight fires with a fire engine, and help police stop other criminals.

I actually think the Vigilante missions were more gratifying than the normal "Run around and kill everything" playstyle I know most people adopt.

You guys seem to be confusing violence with moral ambiguity. The two are often together, but not the same.

For example which is more violent, cutting an enemy soldier in half with a knife and his guts falling out or sniping off a hooker you just had sex with's head producing a tiny splurt and then taking back your money?

The answer is the first act. The second one while much worse on moral grounds is a less violent act. While tone and moral content can in turn affect the way violence is percieved. (IE violence in comedies such as domestic violence is largely ignored, the same violence in dramas can be heartwrenching) Regardless the act is the same in both cases.

So really there's no apples to oranges comparison here. It's more of an apple sauce versus apple pie comparison.

And my point is that there is far more apple in metal slug.

Aaaaand this is pretty much just backup for any and almost all arguments I just made.

[ROCKSTEADY]

It shouldn't matter which is more violent, i thought it was supposed to be about the gameplay?!?!

[JeremyGEE]

Aparently arguing about moral ambiguity is more important.

[Ceraziefish]

Both are pretty fun games, but I got sick of GTA, whereas I don't think I'll ever get sick of Metal Slug.

[bizzarozod]

metal slug is pure and simple straight up murder time. in gta you do really wussy things like deal coke, i mean how much do you as a player need to be censored?

[Galkar]

metal slug is pure and simple straight up murder time. in gta you do really wussy things like deal coke, i mean how much do you as a player need to be censored?

Haha, Matt. I saw your avatar and thought "I guess other people have found that website" then noticed your screen name. When did you start posting?

[JeremyGEE]

Aren't we dealing with larger issues?

[Ceraziefish]

Aren't we dealing with larger issues?

Yup. I mean, when you think about it, something like Civilization is probably much more violent than Metal Slug or GTA... In Civ you burn down cities with thousands of people in them, just because you can't be bothered to deal with the extra bureacracy.

[Ceraziefish]

while i do respect the fact that GTA deals with larger issues than metal slug i.e. the sex industry, the drug trade and gambling. all of these thing do lead to violence but arent neccesaraly violent themselves

whereas metal slug is very simple in its message and deep social commentary

KILL EVERYTHING BETWEEN YOU AND ROBO/ALIEN SADDAM HUSSIEN

i find that to be much more violent, and violent in its every fiber and second of play than the GTA series

and i mean c'mon GIANT ENEMY (hermit) CRAB

[bizzarozod]

^^^^^ is me (ROBIN YOU FALLACIOUS MUPPET)

[The Lone Magician]

I tried to explain this to my Criminal Justice teacher when I was interrupted my some stupid, ignorant student who thought it didn't matter. I just stopped talking and started reading when my teacher felt the need to make me keep talking. He also thinks GTA is the current Best-selling video game. With all due respect (because he's usually pretty cool) he has no idea what the hell he's talking about.