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I have a problem with Alundra's tactics. He dismisses any opinion which does not comply with his as automatically invalid. I commented on Halo 3, but apparently I'm not cool enough to talk about it since I don't give a shit about it. Seriously, he is an inflammatory poster, he was basically begging for a fight and I dismissed him, and then I got this: http://www.accelerated-e.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=338947

Why the hell does anyone put up with this?

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Uh, what? He closed a topic that got ridiculously far off track and was turning into a cesspool of fanboy shit no thanks to a couple of members.

I don't think of Alundra as inflammatory, but the whole "why comment if you don't care" argument is really stupid. It's a forum, any of us are allowed to comment on whatever the hell we want to, whether we care or not. That's the point of these places. Completely un-restricted free speech.

Since when do forums promise that? There's a reason most of them have rules.

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Uh, what? He closed a topic that got ridiculously far off track and was turning into a cesspool of fanboy shit no thanks to a couple of members.

It is not about that, it is about the way he treats other members opinions. I think the closing of the thread was justified as it did get off track, and he was the one who derailed it by his response to my attitude toward him.

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Unrestricted free speech? Rules?

While we may only have a few rules, which are rather broad and pretty brief, AE does not stand for Anarchy Evolution.

RT, for the most part, goes relatively unmoderated (unless it's bestiality or something *cough* Otacon *cough*).

We're relatively lenient in General as well, scarcely closing topics.

Aside from these two sections of the board, we encourage quality posting and quality discussions. The topic in which Alundra locked, was headed in that direction from the start.

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i totally agree with closing the thread

Rawr! Hiss! You are sooooo scary! Oooooooo! I think I'm gonna cry! Boo fuckin' hoo! :hardgay:

because this is a mature post?

and if you really didn't care, then honestly, why bother posting anything at all? no insight or opinion was added to the discussion other than a big "LOL INTRANETS"

From what i have seen Alundra is a fair mod. 'nuff said.

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Definitely. And honestly, HP, did you think that by saying what you said you would keep the thread open?

Seriously, I don't get it; you want members to not act like moderators and get mad when moderators act like moderators. :mellow:

Let me try this again: I DON'T CARE THAT THE THREAD WAS CLOSED.

I feel that Alundra is not level headed enough to be a moderator. And that is just my opinion, not gospel, and I'm not trying to hurt anyone with it.

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If someone truly cares nothing about a topic, they won't post. But posting to say you don't care about a game, or a system isn't really saying that you don't care. It's making a variety of statements.

I feel that Alundra is not level headed enough to be a moderator. And that is just my opinion, not gospel, and I'm not trying to hurt anyone with it.

I feel that you're not level headed enough to effectively and objectively criticize the job of any mod or admin. I'm not saying you don't have a right to, I'm saying you are unable to do it.

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Thank you SD. I was just stating things from my viewpoint (an everyday chick watching the Halo frenzy from afar) and gave my observations and he didn't like what I said, and immediately attacked me for not caring about the game. I had every right to say how I felt, but I was shot down because of this. Not fair and I won't stand for it.

I thought we were allowed to have fun? What happened to that? I was just poking at him for being so damn serious and he goes off. NOT MY FAULT THAT HE IS HOT-HEADED AND CANNOT HANDLE ANYONE ELSE'S OPINION.

This entire community breathes contradiction, over and over.

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Thank you SD. I was just stating things from my viewpoint (an everyday chick watching the Halo frenzy from afar) and gave my observations and he didn't like what I said, and immediately attacked me for not caring about the game. I had every right to say how I felt, but I was shot down because of this. Not fair and I won't stand for it.

Well, you should have worded it differently, which is what I'm saying.

When you say you don't care, what you're really saying is that the game is overrated, right? That's a perfectly valid opinion. Posting in a topic to say you don't care is, literally, posting to say you have nothing to say, which most people would consider spam.

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Huh...I make posts like that all the time and I'm not stopped. but then again I usually try to add something to the topic in the line below it. -shrugs-

you care enough about the topic to say you don't care about it. :mellow:

and I've never had any problems with Alundra ever. I've found him to be a pretty cool dude.

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I have this weird idea of AE Rules in my head that nobody has to follow or care about. It's all about being a dick.

But I think you were totally correct/Within Unwritten AE rules to post what you originally said in the thread. That is definitely in the spirit of AE Excellence. I would never have responded harshly to you.

Alundra was also ok to respond to you like a dick, but I think you win the argument.

He was a dick though, that is what we do. We are all dicks. Even if you are a totally new member you can just walk in and be a dick and I'll cheer you on. I am being such a dick right now. It's crazy.

Anyway, if a moderator says something, that doesn't mean you have to take it seriously. Moderators are just dicks like the rest of us. Moderators really don't have any more power unless they're not being dicks (like if Vampy asks you to add a warning to deer porn, etc.) If a moderator is being a dick, and you're not, that's all there is, people are going to see that you're not the dicky one. Being a moderator doesn't make anyone respect you more here.

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Kk Pyro, got something to say. I for one, am tired of your whining. You almost left, and I'm not telling you to leave, but you OBVIOUSLY did not like this board. People who have been here from the start will tell you people here are complete a-holes. That's the way AE is, and why we love it.

Maybe you should take up all your complaints into private messages? Personally? I don't wanna hear you griping in this forum everyday about something, if you don't like someone, ignore them.

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Alundra's a cool guy, but he can be a dick. That's just kinda the way things go. I think the entire thread was kind of unfortunate, and flame bait on all parts (obviously GPS posting it in the first place was, but pretty much every other post was, too). It's just a pretty volatile topic, and everyone should chill out.

EDIT: Amy, you are so much like a friend of mine who dropped out of high school to do drugs, and then moved to Vermont. Seriously.

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It seems that every time I see a thread started by you, it's petty little bullshit. I know Alundra in real life and if you don't know how to take him, he can seem like a dick, but he's really not. He's a funny dude with a good head on his shoulders and I can say that even now while I have personal reservations about him. And if you're going to make a little prick comment like that, of course it's not going to be returned with generosity. And why leave it open? So you can just make catty remarks? God, it seems all you do is piss and moan about this place, if it's so bad, why are you still here? I'm not saying leave, but I am saying don't stay and incessantly bitch.

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Wow, I did not see this coming, honestly, I'm not being sarcastic or anything. For everyones information, HP took this to PM with me and told me she was done discussing the topic, so I'm a bit surprised to see this topic even exists after she said it was over, but hell, I'll play ball.

The orginal post she directed you all to was me telling her to stay on topic or just stop, which, in my opinion, was the right thing to do. I can't stand the derailing of threads on AE sometimes, and this time, I had the ability to actually do something about it. Sure, I can be a dick sometimes, and so can all of the other members here, and I sure as hell pull up the posts if you like, you just can't stand the fact it was directed at you. I'm sorry if you can't take it, but I was elected moderator even when I wasn't looking for the position, and now I embrace it and like to take action when necessary. My original post about her opinion was definately made because it was a Brenton type post, which always consisted of that pseudo-anonyminity, "I'll say what I want because I don't give a shit, it's the internet" (Which was follwed up by her PM saying the very same thing)

I don't "oppress" people, the word being used in my direction gives me a good laugh, ask anyone here. In the two or so years I have moderated VG, I have closed a total of, what, 5 threads due to spam and flaming? Guess what? You're new no matter how you cut it, you have no right to come to AE and attack my moderating when you haven't even been here for 2 weeks officially and act like you know how I do things. I don't claim to know shit about you, so I don't create a thread in the Rant Pit saying, "HP uses AE as a text dump for her bitchyness" because I don't know how you work. You came back at me with an immature, flame-filled post I caught a bit late and I closed the thread because it had already derailed and degenerated enough. All we were going to do was bicker back and forth and it would have been pointless, if you want to call me an asshole, do it on PM instead of trying to be an internet cool-guy by "calling me out" or "dismissing" me.

I'm not hot-headed, you don't know me, and have no right to judge me, nor do you need to emblazon my name on AE like this because you're mad you can't retaliate in the thread I closed, it's as simple as that. I also have to thank the members of AE defending me in some way, it makes me feel loved <3.

:hardgay:

He's a funny dude with a good head on his shoulders and I can say that even now while I have personal reservations about him

You just want to release your "personal reservations" on me. :hardgay:

Wow, that was really gay. I almost feel dirty.

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