Samurai Drifter Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7120100668.html Long story short, a teacher was imprisoned for naming a teddy bear "Muhammed." Protestors are calling for her execution. Quotes played on the news include "if I find this British woman, I will kill and cut her myself." Her sentence could have been up to 40 lashes with a whip, 6 months in prison, and a fine. You're right, guys, Muslims aren't more bloodthirsty than Christians at all. Link to comment
The Lone Magician Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 This seems like a pretty random thread? Were you guys arguing again? Link to comment
Samurai Drifter Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 This seems like a pretty random thread? Were you guys arguing again? I'm pretty sure the original debate was before your time. Link to comment
The Lone Magician Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I'm pretty sure the original debate was before your time. I remember a thread about it, but I asked because I thought you resolved it and/or just got bored of arguing about it. Link to comment
Satan Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 This debate will never end. Neither side will budge, no matter what the other side says. Link to comment
Crube Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7120100668.html Long story short, a teacher was imprisoned for naming a teddy bear "Muhammed." Protestors are calling for her execution. Quotes played on the news include "if I find this British woman, I will kill and cut her myself." Her sentence could have been up to 40 lashes with a whip, 6 months in prison, and a fine. You're right, guys, Muslims aren't more bloodthirsty than Christians at all. Well... Muslims aren't bloodthirsty, it's just the radical ones that are. It's like saying all Christians belong to the bloodthirsty, pro lifers, anti gay squad. Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Can we just eliminate organized religion already? What practical purpose does it serve other than causing mass genocide? Link to comment
The Lone Magician Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Can we just eliminate organized religion already? What practical purpose does it serve other than causing mass genocide? Bringing people together? Teaching principles? Creating people who will blindly follow anything you tell them that doesn't clash with their current beliefs? Link to comment
ROCKSTEADY Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7120100668.html Long story short, a teacher was imprisoned for naming a teddy bear "Muhammed." Protestors are calling for her execution. Quotes played on the news include "if I find this British woman, I will kill and cut her myself." Her sentence could have been up to 40 lashes with a whip, 6 months in prison, and a fine. You're right, guys, Muslims aren't more bloodthirsty than Christians at all. i could see a christian society pulling this off back in the day, matter of fact.... weren't christians doing this kind of stuff at this age. Link to comment
margot Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 hmmm well i am surprised, usually i think a lot of a-e would say, "well it's her fault, she knew the law." personally i think crazy christians would be just as crazy over this kind of thing if the environment were more rife for it. well the kkk is full of people who call themselves christian too. Link to comment
Nega-Brent Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 A woman in Saudi Arabia was sentenced to time in prison and 500 lashes for betraying her husband after she was beaten and gang raped. Link to comment
Crube Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 i could see a christian society pulling this off back in the day, matter of fact.... weren't christians doing this kind of stuff at this age. Nah, the Holy Crusades and all the countless witch hunts are nothing compared to this. Link to comment
Elitist Indie Hipster Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 A woman in Saudi Arabia was sentenced to time in prison and 500 lashes for betraying her husband after she was beaten and gang raped. Well........... she shouldn't have been forced to expose herself. Link to comment
Gundampilotspaz Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 You're right, guys, Muslims aren't more bloodthirsty than Christians at all. Muslims might be more harsh, but there are people who might want to do this to me if I named a teddy bear "Jesus" or "Yahweh". They just don't happen to be in charge of the government.... yet. Link to comment
The Lone Magician Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It's just a Teddy Bear... Don't they want Muhammad to be cuddly and lovable? Link to comment
Suga Babe Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I remember a thread about it, but I asked because I thought you resolved it and/or just got bored of arguing about it. Naah, it wasn't really resolved -- cuz Jeff didn't come back and reply to the thread after he said he was going to get better informed on the topic -- over a year ago. You know what? I really don't understand what the big deal with this whole thing is. She broke the LAW. THE LAW. By living in Sudan she chose to follow/abide by THEIR LAWS. And she didn't, she failed to comply. I don't get why the whole 'bloodthirsty' thing comes into play here -- because its not like she broke a custom and they're calling for her head...she broke the LAW. I don't get why we just avoid all these 'muslims are bloodthirsty' threads and just make a thread on you and your racism, Jeff -- you seem to find every excuse to call Muslim's bloodthirsty -- and I disprove that theory of yours because I am Muslim -- and I, for one, am not bloodthirsty. Don't generalize what you don't know when we've gone over this topic many times -- over AE and MSN. Link to comment
The Lone Magician Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Instead of attempting to argue a point that may get me into a position I don't want to be in, I will take this chance to laugh at Jeff for being accused of being a racist (which he is not). Haha, Jeff. lolz Link to comment
uniform_motion Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Muslims don't believe people burn in hell forever, Christians do. Link to comment
Suga Babe Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Instead of attempting to argue a point that may get me into a position I don't want to be in, I will take this chance to laugh at Jeff for being accused of being a racist (which he is not). Haha, Jeff. lolz Well, to me it seems like he is -- the first time we argued about this it was whatever -- because he was arguing from an ignorant point of view...so I tried to educate him -- over a year ago....but then him bringing it up in MSN conversations and now this here, again -- well, you can't help but get the idea that he is. Link to comment
The Lone Magician Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Muslims don't believe people burn in hell forever, Christians do. What happens to Muslims? Link to comment
uniform_motion Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 What happens to Muslims? Well, according to my knowledge (which is nada) Muslims believe even those who go to hell are eventually redeemed. The time may change, but once the punishment is inflicted it's all done, etc. EDIT: I just realized I shouldn't make a claim on a subject I don't know anything about. Lesson learned... xD It seems they believe all Muslims (murderers or not) will eventually be redeemed from hell. Everyone else is screwed. Agh. Link to comment
Samurai Drifter Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Well... Muslims aren't bloodthirsty, it's just the radical ones that are. It's like saying all Christians belong to the bloodthirsty, pro lifers, anti gay squad. Of course, if someone named a stuffed animal "Jesus" in the US, I highly doubt she'd be imprisoned and have huge crowds advocating her execution. Well, according to my knowledge (which is nada) Muslims believe even those who go to hell are eventually redeemed. Actually, Muslims believed that non-Muslims are tormented in hell by the Allah's angels, from what I've read in books about various religions' view of the afterlife. Link to comment
uniform_motion Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Of course, if someone named a stuffed animal "Jesus" in the US, I highly doubt she'd be imprisoned and have huge crowds advocating her execution. And how does America constitute a Christian nation? Their nation where she's being punished openly declares theirs. I know you're talking stats, but legally there's no grounds. Over there it's a batshit different kind of ballgame. Actually, Muslims believed that non-Muslims are tormented in hell by the Allah's angels, from what I've read in books about various religions' view of the afterlife. Yeah, I figured this out. There is, however, some stale debates about this in the muslim community. But, yeah, you're right. Link to comment
Suga Babe Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Well, according to my knowledge (which is nada) Muslims believe even those who go to hell are eventually redeemed. The time may change, but once the punishment is inflicted it's all done, etc. EDIT: I just realized I shouldn't make a claim on a subject I don't know anything about. Lesson learned... xD It seems they believe all Muslims (murderers or not) will eventually be redeemed from hell. Everyone else is screwed. Agh. I know that the concept of redemption does exist in the Qur'an -- I couldn't tell you what it is because I don't remember much of it since I read it over 10 years ago. Of course, if someone named a stuffed animal "Jesus" in the US, I highly doubt she'd be imprisoned and have huge crowds advocating her execution. Because its not against the law. I'm sure that if it were then they would get in some sort of trouble. Link to comment
Samurai Drifter Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 I don't get why we just avoid all these 'muslims are bloodthirsty' threads and just make a thread on you and your racism, Jeff -- you seem to find every excuse to call Muslim's bloodthirsty -- and I disprove that theory of yours because I am Muslim -- and I, for one, am not bloodthirsty. Don't generalize what you don't know when we've gone over this topic many times -- over AE and MSN. Last time I checked, Islam was a religion, not a race. I don't approve of any religions but find Islam to inspire much more violence than Christianity. I'm pretty offended by this accusation, you know, so don't consider us friends anymore. Link to comment
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