Personal Hygiene

[amy]

Okay, here are some things I've been wondering about your opinions on personal hygiene.

- Does a person have a responsibility to try to shower and wear deodorant around others??

- If they don't, whose responsibility is it to tell them to do so?

- If millions of people around the United States did not bathe, should the government say, "Bathe"?

- How far is the government allowed to go?

Applied to sleeping at the right times, wearing coats outside, etc.

- It affects nobody but yourself (and those dependent on you/have to care for you)

- Clearly it would be illegal for the government to order you to sleep at a certain time but is all it can do suggest??

Applied to exercising and eating healthy

- Americans are really fat!

- I know the government would like them not to be but all the proposed solutions do they infringe on personal liberty?? ????? ????? I DUNNO,

- I guess what I'm trying to say is you know how they have those publicity shoots where George Bush goes running in his home town and stuff, and it would be great if it was patriotic duty to be fit, like up there with the "Morals of America", Is this a PROBLEM??

Or, is it helpful because fitness helps individual lives?

I'm feeling really poetic and I think it's just an ugly unnatural thing for a person to do, not exercise per se but just some fat southern trailer guy steeped in history eating 5 servings of vegetables and working out on the treadmill, that's just depressing.

[margot]

Well, it's common sense that the government doesn't have the right to force people to exercise/eat right/shower/ ect but on the other hand junk food and not exercising can be just as bad for you as cigarettes/drugs/alcohol/putting yourself + others in danger/ect so it seems hypocritical in a way.

You learn eating habits very early in your life based on how your parents feed you, so if they feed you junk food and you later develop heart disease are they murderers?

And bad hygene can lead to poor social relations with people, which can lead to mental conditions like depression, and everyone claims that the government needs to look out for the health of individual people, so what about that?

Obviously (again) you can't impose laws to make people healthy, but something needs to be done about "the obesity epidemic"..though honestly it doesn't really seem fixable until perhaps a lot of the population dies from complications that arise from being overweight/obese..

[Poophy]

- Does a person have a responsibility to try to shower and wear deodorant around others??

Yes, well its more of the courteous thing than a responsibility, or at lest do something to cover up the smell

- If they don't, whose responsibility is it to tell them to do so?

Any one who finds the smell offensive

- If millions of people around the United States did not bathe, should the government say, "Bathe"?

NO! The government should never have the right to force us to wash our selves. If you wont to stink that’s you own choice!

- How far is the government allowed to go?

Unless it is doing it to stop the spread of a disease it should never be able to tell us to bathe, and even then, if should only be able to strongly suggest that we do so…

- It affects nobody but yourself (and those dependent on you/have to care for you)

People sleep at/for whatever time they find necessary/convenient

- Clearly it would be illegal for the government to order you to sleep at a certain time but is all it can do suggest??

Are you suggesting that the government be able to stet a curfew? Because I have personally never been in favor of marshal law.

- Americans are really fat!

Under no circumstance, short of war rationing, should the government have any influence on the foods that I eat.

- I guess what I'm trying to say is you know how they have those publicity shoots where George Bush goes running in his home town and stuff, and it would be great if it was patriotic duty to be fit, like up there with the "Morals of America", Is this a PROBLEM??

If you see it as your patriotic duty to “be fit for the father land” so you can go and “fight for the father land” and be examples of this physically fit “master race” that we are, they by all means, work out and eat right… (note: the “father land” and “master race” things were intended to be references to nazi Germany.)

[Venom112]

- Does a person have a responsibility to try to shower and wear deodorant around others??

- If they don't, whose responsibility is it to tell them to do so?

- If millions of people around the United States did not bathe, should the government say, "Bathe"?

- How far is the government allowed to go?

1. No, it is not a responsibility, (unless you work in a food or medical related field), it's more an issue of ettiquite. Kind of like elbows on a table, it's rude, but it isn't your responsibility to follow the creed of ettiquite. However, people will likely start to shy away from you, beecause of both odor and you challenge their value system.

2. The 6 other dwarves.

3. The gov. would, simply because they wouldn't want their citizens looking any more like slobs to the other countries than we already do.

4. Depends upon the power granted to them combined with the outrage of the proles. Currently though the gov. continually gains more and more power.

Applied to sleeping at the right times, wearing coats outside, etc.

- It affects nobody but yourself (and those dependent on you/have to care for you)

- Clearly it would be illegal for the government to order you to sleep at a certain time but is all it can do suggest??

Unless they start releasing gasses into a household, all they can ever do is suggest. They could turn off your water and electricity, but it would still be just a strong-armed suggestion by big brother.

Applied to exercising and eating healthy

- Americans are really fat!

- I know the government would like them not to be but all the proposed solutions do they infringe on personal liberty?? ????? ????? I DUNNO,

- I guess what I'm trying to say is you know how they have those publicity shoots where George Bush goes running in his home town and stuff, and it would be great if it was patriotic duty to be fit, like up there with the "Morals of America", Is this a PROBLEM??

1. This is contributed to various things. The main thing is that Americans are so highly efficient. They have numerous machines to do work that previously took hours. Also, millions upon millions of people suffer sleep deprivation, and body weight vastly increases the less you sleep, once again showing the efficiency of time, because it's not foolishly staying up too late, it's because Americans are busy, busy, busy. Additionally, because they are so busy, they tend to rely upon fast food, which tends to be loaded with calories, because they don't have the time or can't be bothered with cooking. Also, the ease causes people to eat more, along with boredom, which also causes hunger. On top of that, stress is high, which further increases weight problems. And then you've got some people who eat when they are stressed, which makes the problem worse than it already was.

2. Depends upon ones concept of personal liberties. Is one entitled to medical? Some medical costs more right off the bat if someone is heavyset. Some companies even provide bonuses to the trim and fit, because it costs them less in medical potentially.

3. Yes, because that would encourage me to NOT excersize. Falling under the allure of patriotism is the fool's way. It turns people into zealots and mindless drones.

[Ceraziefish]

I really don't see the big issue with bathing. Sure, if you don't shower for a few days you might smell a little funky...

But really, that's a small price to pay for not having to do any work to clean yourself.

[Anime Gee]

If I was the government & I'd sign a fucking decree to punish those with bad hygiene!!

*Shakes fist violently!* ( >o<)/

Bathe you dirty mother fuckers, BATHE!!!! And use some fucking deoderant & brush your teeth too!! I don't want to smell your funky asses from a mile away! Chikusho! \(>o< )

[Belial]

See, this (in theory) is a beautiful contry where people have the right to not bathe or take care of themselves, and you have the right to walk away from those kind of people.

It all works out in the end, so quit being shallow and wondering if you need to leagaly force other people to be like you.

[Arcane]

See, this (in theory) is a beautiful contry where people have the right to not bathe or take care of themselves, and you have the right to walk away from those kind of people.

It all works out in the end, so quit being shallow and wondering if you need to leagaly force other people to be like you.

Yeah, really. Wanting to force someone to be "clean" and "fit" is no better than wanting to force someone to be a Christian or a Muslim.