Parents' Rights

[amy]

Sooo parents rights relating to schools are an issue because some parents don't want their children hearing stuff like "It's Okay to be Gay" and think that's in violation of some federal law and that they should have control over what their kids hear in health class etc. like, children shouldn't have access to information on how to get an abortion without parent consent

In my town last year there was a "diversity book bag" that had a book called Who's In A Family? for kindergarten and in that book there was a picture of a gay couple making breakfast in the morning with their daughter or something, and this guy David Parker saw it and flipped out and went onto the school yelling about how it shouldn't be there and then the school people were like, "Well sorry mister, nothing I can do about it" and he was like "WHAT" and got arrested and this became a BIG DEAL.

So do you think schools should have the right to tell students stuff about controversial issues, or should the parents have control over what is said

[Gundampilotspaz]

Parents have no right to interfer in what he being taught at the school just because they are offended by it.

However, they do have the right for their child not to partake in it.

[amy]

However, they do have the right for their child not to partake in it.

Even just as an offhand comment? Like, say in a third grade class some girl says "I have a gay uncle and he couldn't join the army", and someone else says "That's too bad" and it goes into a small discussion, should the unwilling parent's child be taken out of the room?

[Gundampilotspaz]

Well that's up to the school and to the parent. Those situations are unavoidable, and thye shouldn't be avoided because of the single student.

[darkon]

If the parents want their kid to be closed-minded and ignorant, all the power to them. Just don't enforce their will on other children and their parents' desire for their child to be open-minded and wise.

[amy]

The idea of the "parents' rights" movement is that parents should have the right, in general, for their children not to hear that :P Thus precluding any discussion at all really, unless a form is filled out authorizing discussion.

[darkon]

Then they fill out the forms. The parents who don't want their kids to hear it have their kids placed in a class where no discussion at all is authorized. Those who do, get their kids in educational classes.

[Gundampilotspaz]

The idea of the "parents' rights" movement is that parents should have the right, in general, for their children not to hear that :P Thus precluding any discussion at all really, unless a form is filled out authorizing discussion.

Wait, what?

When did this come about?

[amy]

Wait, what?

When did this come about?

:P I don't know it's just something my mom likes. You know how when you take health you have to bring the form home for your parents to sign saying the curriculum is okay? That's the lawwww and the parents rights people are saying it should be more widely applied. (I think the parents should not have the right to control this! Yarrrr.)

[Gundampilotspaz]

:P I don't know it's just something my mom likes. You know how when you take health you have to bring the form home for your parents to sign saying the curriculum is okay? That's the lawwww and the parents rights people are saying it should be more widely applied. (I think the parents should not have the right to control this! Yarrrr.)

THERE IS A LAW LIKE THAT! WTF!

*GRABS A PICKET SIGN*

[darkon]

No, it should be a law. And if the parents don't sign it, their kids have to take classes that will assure they don't advance far in life.

[margot]

Well, I think realistically there's already too much of this "parents' rights" non-sense. Like children know nothing about the biology behind reproduction because their religious parents think it's immoral.

I guess I'm sort of going off on a tangeant, but sex-ed classes are so fucking ineffective in informing/preventing teen pregnancy, because everyone's worried about being sued, so they only preach abstinence. A lot of teenagers seriously think two condoms are better than one, or they hear from their friends that birth control is ineffective, so why bother using it? And a lack of knowledge on how to put on a condom correctly, ect.

[darkon]

I got some serious sex-ed and I go to a Catholic school. Like mine was hardcore and in-depth.

And then we have huge abstinence/chastity assemblies. But in small groups we got some serious sex-ed.

[margot]

Well, in my school district (and it's like the 5th largest in the country or something) it's abstinence all across the board.

If we ignore the fact that teenagers are having sex, they must not be...right?

[Gundampilotspaz]

If we ignore the fact that teenagers are having sex, they must not be...right?

Teenagers are having SEX?!!?!

I have heard nothing of this.

[Ceraziefish]

Teenagers are having SEX?!!?!

I have heard nothing of this.

I am shocked, SHOCKED to find out that sex is going on in here!

Anyway, I had some pretty good sex-ed. Of course, the ones at school were pretty useless. I took supplementary classes at my church.

[Galkar]

Speakin of which, you should hook me up with that. I need some health credit.

[Satan]

parents should have the right to sign forms forbidding their children from hearing anything conreversial. Since such parents are obviously failing their children, they should then have the legal right to make choices for their child revoked.